Religion. Real or fake?

DeletedUser

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well i'm not gonna look how it is. some1 else needs to go check
 

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i tink that deraban made a good description.
 
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i disseagree on 3.

We all have a pupose in life: doing what we want to do.
1) exploring the univers
2) understand everything
3) do what fysics and chemisty says we can't

That is not a purpose, that is a goal. A purpose is a reason for our existance rather than what we do with that existance. Our purpose can only be set external to our existance. You dont say that the purpose of a farmyard cow is to eat grass all day, we set its purpose as to produce milk; something set and planned by us before the cow ever exists.

Going farther eatch time thats what drives us, it makes us human.

so animals cant go beyond the normal? you think an we are above animals?

if there is a god, we work to become equal or even better then god
if not we work to be better then anything else(basicly the same as if there is a god)

If there is a God then our purpose is to worship this God, otherwise why would he/she/it create us? If you remove the God we have no purpose

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okay- just one thing...
on topic, i think that biolodgically, physically, no, there is no life after death, that doesnt mean that there isnt spirtually there is nothing...
if humans had nothing to drive them, we would be on the same level,
i believe in this humans are above animals, because we are the dominant speces om earth, sure, i expect that if there is life out of earth, there (in the words of obi wan x)) is always a bigger fish, but we have risen abive others, but everything on this world, in this life, will take time, and we have to except that...
after all, atm, isnt there more proof jesus existed than caeser?

oh, and fire lord?????

multi quote. please use it.
 

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who said animals don't have an afterlife?

The bible places humans as dominating animals. Only Humans were given freewill so therefore only humans can chose to be good. In order for a action to be moraly right you need to have chosen to do it. It is pointless to have a a heaven for something that has no ability to make a morally right decision because heaven is a reward for doing one.
 

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ok tacticus.
we never were created for a resson. Its just chemistry.
i don't care that i don't have a purposs, i love my chemisty.
first molecules formed, more and more molecules start to get toghether, first primitive cell, forming of the cell makes it easier for some processes to happen couse they safely in the cell. cell starts to be able to produce its own energie, grow multiply. first organisme, organisme specialises to become better to survive....................

who needs god, i got science
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wheres it say that

Where he puts man above beast;
26Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." [FONT=Arial,]27[/FONT]So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. [FONT=Arial,]28[/FONT]And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." [FONT=Arial,]29[/FONT]And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. [FONT=Arial,]30[/FONT]And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. [FONT=Arial,]31[/FONT]And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.

It doesnt, as far as i know, actually say that animals arnt given freewill but seeming as they are not commanded by God, given orders or show any signs throughout the entirety of the bible as having the ability to have freewill it suggests they dont.
 

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ok tacticus.
we never were created for a resson. Its just chemistry.
i don't care that i don't have a purposs, i love my chemisty.
first molecules formed, more and more molecules start to get toghether, first primitive cell, forming of the cell makes it easier for some processes to happen couse they safely in the cell. cell starts to be able to produce its own energie, grow multiply. first organisme, organisme specialises to become better to survive....................

who needs god, i got science

you do realise i dont believe in God right?

For future reference; i am an agnostic, i believe that there could be a god (a perfect being) but we can't prove or disprove his/her/its/their existance because we are bound by human limitations and the fact that any god would encompass the entire universe. There could be more than one god as there are many forms of perfection and it is possible to have multiple copies of the same god. Religion on the other hand is a human invention to answer the ultimate questions and to comfort our fears; it is made up. The existance of non-perfect gods (pagan ones) is possible aswell, just beings who have evolved further than us.
 

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i'm a scientist, i thinks thats pritty mutch the same as you are

religian is totaly human.
humans being bound? i don't believe, at first we couldn't fly, we build planes and now we can fly.
humanity will keep striving towards perfection and so will god if he exists (or they, it or whatever god(s) is (are)).
(so long nothing bad happens and humanity gets wiped out atleast)
perfection is made up by humans, we created that so we wouldn't get confuses.
so do most think space has a border, but it doesn't, it is endless. the human mind kan almost not beare the the idea of something being endless
becouse this is just 1 univers out of enless and how possibly could something endless exist endless times

endless big univers times andless amounts of univers = endles²
so how can endless² exist if endless is the end

a perfect being is made up, just as religion.

btw i'm catholic and a scientist, i believe there might be a "god" ou there maibe watching over us, maibe he guided our path in the past. he didn't create us, but maibe he gave us a small push in the right derection. Religion is something people can call on if they are in need, the bible has many great storries that guide us and ask us to be good to eatch other, their like kid stories.
 
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DeletedUser84906

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Okay

I was never intrested in replying any stupid posts some players post here before, and im not intrested in posting now.

I will only say one word, and ihope that stop all discusions that lead to nothing:

FAITH
 

DeletedUser

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every1 has faith, but i'm talking bout something way bigger then faith
 

DeletedUser84906

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every1 has faith, but i'm talking bout something way bigger then faith

so you´re talking about scientific proof about God´s existance/non existance?

I hope this lead to a fight beetween us so i can finally take his villages.*icon evil*
 

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nope just saying that if there is a god, that god isn't perfect
and saying that humanity has no real borders

and im saying god didn't create us, that we used to be real simpel molecules and someway we arganised and later on humans were the result
 
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DeletedUser84906

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I really cba to debate this in english, but im just going to say that the "organic soup" is totally fake my friend.
 

DeletedUser

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i will come kick ur ass. we already experimanted with how the first molecules are suggested to been created .
and the results were that after a few days the first complex molecules were apearing.

Abiogenesis is correct, don't dare deny it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
 
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